Knees and elbows
24 March, 2009
When you speak of the "shok" do any valid rabbinic authorities exclude the the knee and is there ability to be flexible in that area?
In terms of sleeve length how much above the elbow can one allow for?
The definition of shok is not clear cut and is subject to dispute amongst the poskim as to whether it refers to the upper leg or the lower leg and whether the knee is included. While a woman should ideally wear a skirt at least to the knee, and sleeves at least to the elbow, there is room according to some opinions to expose less than a tefach (approximately 8 cm) above the knee or elbow.
For an in-depth discussion of the sources of the laws of tzniut, we recommend Understanding Tzniut (published by Urim), written by our rabbinic supervisor Rav Yehuda Henkin. For further discussion, see Rav Henkin's Bnei Banim volume 3 siman 26.
This internet service does not preclude, override or replace the psak of any rabbinical authority. It is the responsibility of the questioner to inform us of any previous consultation or ruling. As even slight variation in circumstances may have Halachic consequences, views expressed concerning one case may not be applied to other, seemingly similar cases. All health and health-related information contained within Nishmat's Women's Health & Halacha Web site is intended to be general in nature and should not be used as a substitute for consulting with your health care professional. The advice is intended to offer a basis for individuals to discuss their medical condition with their health care provider but not individual advice. Although every effort is made to ensure that the material within Nishmat's Women's Health & Halacha Web site is accurate and timely, it is provided for the convenience of the Web site user but should not be considered official. Advice for actual medical practice should be obtained from a licensed health care professional.
For further questions or comments:
The Nishmat Women's Health and Halacha Site is a public service of Nishmat, The Jeanie Schottenstein Center for Advanced Torah Study for Women. This project and others like it are made possible by contributions from people like you. If you have benefited from the service, and wish to enable us to help others, click here to donate.
Users of Internet filtering services: This site discusses sensitive subjects that some services filter without visual indication. A page that appears 100% complete might actually be missing critical Jewish-law or medical information. To ensure that you view the pages accurately, ask the filtering service to whitelist all pages under yoatzot.org.